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WWI and WWII med kit hypodermic needles sizes?

Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:42

Hello everyone, I'm new here, awesome site! I have this nagging question I'm trying to answer and google is not too helpful, hope one of you guys may know the answer. I'm looking for info on the gauge sizes of WWI and WWII hypodermic needles. I saw earlier today a show on the History channel and they showed a recently dugout morphine ampoule kit from the Royal Newfoundland Regiment during the Battle of the Somme WWI. Thanks for the help,

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Sat Jan 10, 2009 05:55

Welcome,
The hypodermic needles used in the Army in the 1940's were essentially the same as used now. Regulations for the needles in the MD chest #2 included 25,23, 19,17 and 15 gage needles. Other sizes show up as well. The big ones (10, 15 & 17) were 3" long for aspirating fluids, and the smaller ones for injecting medications and administering vaccinations. The needles in the my hypodermic kit as carried in the Medical Officer's pouch look small, about 23. All of these were industry standard and listed commercially by the big medical supply houses like V.Mueller, P & H company, etc. Of course all were meant to be reused, and not disposable as we now have.
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:02

Hi PAdoc, thank you so much for the reply, you helped me a ton. Much appreciated!

Thanks again,

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Re: WWI and WWII med kit hypodermic needles sizes?

Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:55

LotusMan wrote:Hello everyone, I'm new here, awesome site! I have this nagging question I'm trying to answer and google is not too helpful, hope one of you guys may know the answer. I'm looking for info on the gauge sizes of WWI and WWII hypodermic needles. I saw earlier today a show on the History channel and they showed a recently dugout morphine ampoule kit from the Royal Newfoundland Regiment during the Battle of the Somme WWI. Thanks for the help,

LotusMan


Welcome to the forum LotusMan

Here is a picture of a pack of hypodermic needles I have in one of my Corpsmans bags
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They are gauge 23 and item no. 38490, another zero has been inked on the end making 384900

Cheers

Martyn

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Sat Jan 10, 2009 13:23

Welcome to the Forum LotusMan!

As the other Dirk has indicated, there was a wide range of guages used for hypodermic needles during WW2. Here is a list according to the 1944 Medical Department Supply Catalog:

3847000 - Syringe, Luer, Needle, 25-gage, 1/4 Canula, 12
3850000 - Syringe, Luer, Needle, 22-Gage, 1-inch Canula, 12
3850300 - Syringe, Luer, Needle, 22-Gage, 3-inch Canula, 12
3850500 - Syringe, Luer, Needle, 20-Gage, 1 1/2-inch, Canula, 12
3852000 - Syringe, Luer, Needle, 17-Gage, 3-inch, Canula, 12
3851000 - Syringe, Luer, Needle, 19-Gage, 1 3/4-inch Canula, 12
3853000 - Syringe, Luer, Needle, 15-Gage, 3-inch Canula, 12
3484400 - Needle, Anesthesia, Gage 24, Length 1-Inch, 12
3849000 - Syringe, Luer, Needle, 23-Gage, 3/4-inch Canula, 12
3848000 - Syringe, Luer, Needle, 25-gage, 1/2-inch Canula, 12
5594400 - Syringe, Dental, Needle, Platino-Iridium, 25-Gage, 1-Inch Canula
5594500 - Syringe, Dental, Needle, Platino-Iridium, 25-Gage, 1 5/8-Inch Canula
8098800 - Needle, Hypodermic, Veterinary, 16-gage, 4-inch Canula
8117000 - Syringe, Hypodermic, Needle, Heavy, Standard Luer, 19-gage, 1-inch Canula
8118000 - Syringe, Hypodermic, Needle, Heavy, Standard Luer, 16-gage, 1-inch Canula

I hope that the above will be of some use to your research.

Martyn, it is interesting that someone has inked in an additional zero at the end of the Item Number on your packet. The one that I have in my collection has the standard 5 digits. I wonder what the purpose of this was, since it does not represent a later Item Number either (being one digit too short).

Thanks,
Ben :)
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Sat Jan 10, 2009 22:53

You guys are amazing, thank you all once again, this will help me alot!
Much appreciated.

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