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Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 20:04
by sgtpeter
In case anyone else is interested, Cork No 14 (7768200) listed in the middle and bottom for Chest MD2 is 31mm tall and 31mm diameter at the top. The cork is tapered but it doesn't show the diameter at the bottom. This is from the 1946 Charles Lentz & Sons medical supply catalog. And they can still be found on the internet :)

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 07:50
by sgtpeter
Anyone have a photo of a 1940s stethoscope (#3773000)?

Also looking for dimension of the pus basin (#7713000) and instrument tray (#9958500).

thanks,
Peter

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 17:26
by Ben
Peter,
I will post some photographs of my Stethoscope (Item # 3773000) later on this evening for you.
Thanks,
Ben ;)

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 20:56
by Ben
Peter,
As promised, here is a photograph of the Stethoscope (Item # 3773000) which I own. For comparison, I also included a photograph of the Stethoscope, Blood Pressure, Bracelet Type
(Item # 3773500):

Image

I hope it will be of use to you.
Thanks and kind regards,
Ben :)

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 23:57
by sgtpeter
thanks Ben. That is perfect. I have seen both styles so its good to know either one will work. Have also seen some that have both the large horn and flat chest piece.

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 02:30
by sgtpeter
Anyone know the dimension of the pus basin and instrument tray in the MD2 chest?

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 13:21
by medicall
Hi sgtpeter,
you can see below photos of my own stethoscope item 3773000
and two scans from Medical Supply Catalog March,1 1944 about
dimensions of tray instrument item 9958500.
I think taht these documents can help you for your MD2 chest.
It is very difficult to find items to fill with this medical chest.
Friendly yours.
medicall
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Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 18:13
by sgtpeter
Hi Medicall -

Thanks for the information. I especially like the photo of the box of stethoscopes with the stock number written on top. As for the instrument tray, not sure how I missed that in the MED3. Ebay has several stainless trays measuring 10x8x2 with lids. I'm assuming mostly what was available wartime was the enameled trays, but I think I'll settle for a stainless one for now.

So far, been doing pretty good finding stuff for the chest that is close although it is definitely difficult to find original marked items. But your stethoscope photo also shows plenty of items would have been delivered without USMD stock numbers as I suspected. Still looking for a Small Improved Operating Case. I have one from 1917, but it is noticeably different.

I haven't finished putting together my tray set, but when that is done, I'll post some photos of the stuff I have come up with that is close enough. Basically, I'm down to most of the meds. I have my inventory sheet in the chest and mark stuff off as it gets completed.

Peter

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 05:52
by PAdoc
That is indeed a wonderful photo of the Ford stethoscope box.
A couple of notes on stethoscopes.
1. The type with both a bell and diaphragm (Sprague-Bowles style) was manufactured inthe 1940's but the Army used the Bell only type (Ford style) Then, as now, the stethoscope was considered a personal instrument of the physician and he would have provided his own. Thus almost any style that was available in the early 1940s should be appropriate for the medical officer's use. I heard from a vet that he carried his in his map case. What was in the MD2 chest however, would be the issue Ford type.
2. The bracelet type is an anesthetist's stethoscope and I do not think would be found in the MD2 chest. It would be used however in any evacuation or larger hospital where general anesthesia was performed. The bracelet allowed the diaphragm to be strapped to the patents arm distal to the BP cuff so as to free up the anesthetist's hand.
Becton Dickenson made this scope, and they also offered it in a set with an interchangeable bell, standard diaphragm and bracelet diphragm. I used one years ago and is a nice little set, but I have never heard of it being used during the war. Has anyone else heard? I have always wondered.

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 21:35
by Ben
Interesting photographs, Medicall. Thank you for sharing your example with the Forum members. Out of interest, is this the same Stethoscope shown on page 186 of Henri-Paul Enjames' GI Collectors Guide Volume II? It looks identical. If my memory serves me well, items such as this with the penciled Item Number were released from large stores of WW2 US Medical equipment located in Greece...

Dirk, are you asking whether there is any evidence of the Bracelet Type Stethoscope being used during WW2, or the set offered with an interchangable bell assembly?

Thanks,
Ben :)

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 06:10
by PAdoc
Ben
I am pretty sure the bracelet type was used, but what I curious about was if the set with the different heads that came in a neat little leather case was used much. I see this set listed in my period commercial supply catalogs, so I know they offered it comerically.
By the way, I just received the Morphine Syrette box today. A splendid reproduction in every way!
Dirk

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:12
by Ben
Hi Dirk,
Glad that the Morphine Syrette reproductions made their way to you. As for the bracelet-type Stethoscope, it was certainly used during WW2 - it was issued as part of the Anesthesia Equipment. I will consult the Medical Department Supply Catalog and let you know whether the model to which you're referring appears therein.
Thanks again,
Ben. :)

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 13:09
by medicall
Hello Ben,
congratulations for your good eyesight,because my stethoscope on the forum is mine on the Medical Chapter
in GI Collector's Guide (HP Enjames),but is not coming from Greece,it comes from Mondeville near Caen(Normandy)
in a lot of medical items sold by French Army(Museum of Mobilization Reserve of Sanitary Material) more 15 years ago.
The majority of the medical items in this chapter is my own collection.
Now you know my true identity with my name on top of page 182 of medical chapter.
I had an hesitation for my inscription in this forum,but now it is a great pleasure for me to participate and help
if possible with others medical collectors.
With my best regards.
medicall

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 18:12
by Ben
Hi Jean-Claude!
Now that we know your identity, welcome once again to the Forum, and thank you for your kind words regarding the community here.
Thanks for sharing your Stethoscope.
Best regards,
Ben ;)

Re: [REF] Chest MD2 contents

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 09:25
by sgtpeter
Instrument Sterilizer, 9 3/4 in (9954028) - I assume that uses the Coleman 527 as the burner. Can anyone confirm?