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Mountain Division medic

Thu Nov 15, 2012 07:42

Hello, I'd like to make a typical 10th Mountain Division medic. I've got a US mountain uniform (jacket, trousers, shoes...) I need ideas for the equipment. There are some very good pics on the WW2 US MEDICAL RESEARCH CENTRE site, but it would be great to have your opinion.

Thank you all :D

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Re: Mountain Division medic

Sat Dec 22, 2012 03:03

Somehow I missed this post. I've been working with the 10th Mountain veterans (including several medics) for almost 30 years. What is it you'd like to know about what time period? I may be able to fill in blanks for you...
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Re: Mountain Division medic

Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:08

Hello David, and thanks for your answer,

I'm interested for a mannequin in field medic mountain uniform and equipment. I'll soon post some pics of my US mountainer, I'd like to change in medic... It's great to have information from a specialist like you !

Keep in touch

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Re: Mountain Division medic

Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:20

Looking at several pictures of the 10th Mountain GIs in action in the 44-45 Italian campaign, it is clear that by that time most of the troops had been issued M43 jackets and trousers.
You do see the odd Mountain jacket in wear, but none of the pictures I came across show them in combination with the mountain trousers.

It seems that, at least in the ETO, mountain trousers were worn much more by the FSSF braves than members of the 10th Mountain Div...
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Re: Mountain Division medic

Sat Dec 22, 2012 16:04

Hi Eric

Field manual FM 70-10 mountain operations may provide a good reference.

It provides a section on medical corps operations that includes information on modification to basic equipment and equipment carrage for mountain operations. It includes information on carrying the medical supplies distributed on pack boards rather than in chests.

There are others with much better knowledge of actual use of equipment but I found the manual an interesting read.

It can be found here in PDF format at http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref ... M70-10.PDF.

Good luck with what will be an interesting Display.

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Re: Mountain Division medic

Sat Dec 22, 2012 17:16

There are some wide variations in what was worn at what time. I personally have about 1200 photos of the 10th in combat and access to another 8000+ through the Resource Center. If combat in Italy is the image you are looking for, both the M-43 and the Mountain Field Jacket are worn, and many of the photos show Aid Station soldiers in shirt sleeves - it was a warm Spring. There is about equal split between wool Combat trousers, Mountain trousers and M-43 trousers. Boots go heavily to the 2-buckle variety, with a few (very few) wearing Mountain boots. I have one photo that comes to mind of 2 soldiers in an aid station wearing wools, M-1938 leggings and Parsons jackets (they could be ambulance drivers or soldiers from other units - cannot tell for sure)

Equipment was generally the std Medic bags with yoke and pistol belt with 2 canteens. Almost no rucksacks are seen, but both the Yukon and plywood packboards are common. The BAS teams usually transported their chests in the packboard pack, not in the usual chest. RAS teams used the chests according to the men I've talked to.

Markings - the field medics usually had traditional helmet markings and a single brassard. Soldiers and officers from the 10th Med Bn (Aid Atation complement) used a peculular 3-panel marking on their helmets - at the insistance of the Med Bn commander. Rank markings were applied in white paint on the front of the helmet, and the serial number was stenciled across the top from front to back - on the liner, too. I have photos if you want to paint up one. (real ones sell for huge dollars!)

Head gear - everybody had a helmet, and a few of the guys wore Mountain caps, but the preferred head gear was the Jeep cap under the helmet.

What else would you like to know?
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Re: Mountain Division medic

Sun Jan 12, 2014 19:00

Hello all,

Here is the first step of my Mountain Medic.... I've painted the helmet, with the information provided by TenthA86, except this painting, all is original WWII...
What do you think about it ? Thank you for your advise...

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Re: Mountain Division medic

Fri Jan 17, 2014 03:55

Very nicely done. Paint job is great and the equipment looks right. An "unofficial" use by the medics in the medical battalion was to use mounted or cav. canteen hangers for the spare (2nd) canteen. The medic kept his personal canteen on one side and the 2nd canteen (on the swivel snap) on the other to use with casualties. This according to a 10th Med Bn medic (Nate Morrell).
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Re: Mountain Division medic

Fri Jan 17, 2014 20:50

Thank you TenthA86 for this information ! I shall try this on the mannequin. Before, I have to add a M-36 pistol belt (I forgot it...)...

New photos soon, with 2 canteens...

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Re: Mountain Division medic

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:29

Hello,

Nice display Malpaso !

I'm impatient to see the additional pics.

Fred

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