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9310000 - Case, Ward, Complete

Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:19

Hello,

I have in hands and I'm still trying hard to complete a "9310000 - Case, Ward, Complete" that seems to be the latest model for WWII, precisely subsequent to set used during 1941-1943 period you describe here: http://www.med-dept.com/instrument_sets.php

The content displayed in USMRC dossier is the content of 1941-1943 set. The 1944 set changed obviously with the following I have identified:
1- 3720000 "Razor, Safety" changed from 2 to 1
2- 3721000 "Razor, Safety, Blades, 5" changed from 5 to 2
3- 3173000 "Director, Grooved, Probe Point" changed from 1 to 2

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Remain an enigma for me: What is the rectangular item shown on picture bellow ? If a case, what was inside ?

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Finally, does someone of you you guys have in hands the list of 9310000 content for 1944 set ?

Many thanks
Fred

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Re: 9310000 - Case, Ward, Complete

Fri Jan 24, 2014 16:55

Fred,
as far as I know there was placed a surgical knife set, like been used in surgical kits:

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Cheers, Doc

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Re: 9310000 - Case, Ward, Complete

Fri Jan 24, 2014 18:39

Thanks Doc for the clue, you may be obviously true but...

Aren't these knives redundant with?
3336500 "Knife, Operating, Handle No. 3"
3336900 "Knife, Operating, Blade No. 10, 6"
3337000 "Knife, Operating, Blade No. 11, 6"

In addition the draw of the form is much longer than the knives case, most of the time the draw have the same size.

That's what puzzles me !
Fred

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Re: 9310000 - Case, Ward, Complete

Sat Jan 25, 2014 21:51

Fred,

The list that appears on our web page (i.e. http://www.med-dept.com/instrument_sets.php#9310000) is taken from the 1944 Supply Catalog. I meanwhile checked with the 1942 and 1943 Medical Supply Catalogs, the list of contents is identical for all three. Here are the contents list from all three editions of the Catalog:

1942 Medical Department Supply Catalog:
93101 - Case, Ward, Empty - 1
31730 - Director, Grooved - 1
32300 - Forceps, Hemostatic, Rankin-Kelly, Straight - 6
32310 - Forceps, Hemostatic, Rochester-Pean, Curved - 12
32330 - Forceps, Hemostatic, Rochester-Ochsner, 6 1/4-inch, Straight - 2
32350 - Forceps, Hysterectomy, Pean, Curved - 2
33365 - Knife, Operating, Handle No. 3 - 2
33369 - Knife, Operating, Detachable Blade, No. 10 - 2
33370 - Knife, Operating, Detachable Blade, No. 11 - 2
34260 - Probe, Bullet - 2
34680 - Scissors, Bandage - 2
34750 - Scissors, 1 Point Sharp, 5 1/2-inch - 4
37200 - Razor, Safety - 2
37210 - Razor, Safety, Blades - 3

1943 Medical Department Supply Catalog:
93101 - Case, Ward, Empty - 1
31730 - Director, Grooved - 1
32300 - Forceps, Hemostatic, Rankin-Kelly, Straight - 6
32310 - Forceps, Hemostatic, Rochester-Pean, Curved - 12
32330 - Forceps, Hemostatic, Rochester-Ochsner, 6 1/4-inch, Straight - 2
32350 - Forceps, Hysterectomy, Pean, Curved - 2
33365 - Knife, Operating, Handle No. 3 - 2
33369 - Knife, Operating, Detachable Blade, No. 10 - 2
33370 - Knife, Operating, Detachable Blade, No. 11 - 2
34260 - Probe, Bullet - 2
34680 - Scissors, Bandage - 2
34750 - Scissors, 1 Point Sharp, 5 1/2-inch - 4
37200 - Razor, Safety - 2
37210 - Razor, Safety, Blades - 3

1944 Medical Department Supply Catalog:
9310100 - Case, Ward, Empty - 1
3173000 - Director, Grooved, Probe Point - 1
3230000 - Forceps, Hemostatic, 6 1/4-inch, Straight, Rankin - 6
3231000 - Forceps, Hemostatic, 6 1/4-inch, Curved, Rochester-Pean - 12
3235000 - Forceps, Hysterectomy, 8 1/2-inch, Curved, Pean - 2
3336500 - Knife, Operating, Handle No. 3 - 1
3336900 - Knife, Operating, Blade No. 10, 6 - 2
3337000 - Knife, Operating, Blade No. 11, 6 - 2
3426000 - Probe, Bullet - 2
3468000 - Scissors, Bandage - 2
3475000 - Scissors, Operating, 5 1/2-inch, Straight, 1 Point Sharp - 4
3720000 - Razor, Safety - 2
3721000 - Razor, Safety, Blades, 5 - 3

As you can see, according the Supply Catalogs, the actual contents of the Ward Dressing Case did not change during the period 1942-1944. There are, apparently, 3 packets of Safety Razor Blades included in the kit, and if you look at the layout shown in the 1944 edition of the Supply Catalog, it looks like the bottom section you've highlighted was used to hold two packets of blades, for example:

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I also took a quick photograph of the example in my collection to better illustrate this:

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I hope the above might be of some use to you.

Kind regards,
Ben.
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Re: 9310000 - Case, Ward, Complete

Sat Jan 25, 2014 22:04

As a short post-script to the above, the brand of blades shown in the Catalog is 'Clix'. They're packaged in an orange box:

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Ben.
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Re: 9310000 - Case, Ward, Complete

Sun Jan 26, 2014 16:50

Hello Ben,

Thank you for your comprehensive answer but, according to me, we still facing a gap between the set you are presenting (plus listing of catalog over the years 42-44) and the roller itself shown on my pics as well as JBSaxon's one.

The long rectangular print does not match with two boxes of blades... In addition "3720000 - Razor, Safety" x2 does not match my set that shoes only one place for a razor safety.

Could it be possible my set is 45 or later ? Could it be a gap between specifications and Haslam model (my roller is Haslam) ?

It seems that, despite catalogs, MD items study is not an exact science...

Fred

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